Posted by: iam0nly1 | June 14, 2008

Clinton Delegate Says No Deal, Get’s Ousted

The Democratic Party has taken an even sharper turn for the worst

As an avid supporter of Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Democratic primaries, Debra Bartoshevich is not alone in her frustration over Clinton’s defeat.

She’s not alone in refusing to support Barack Obama.

And she’s not entirely alone in saying she’ll vote this fall for Republican John McCain instead.

But what makes her unusual is that she holds these views as an elected delegate to the Democratic National Convention in Denver this summer.

“I’m sure people are going to be upset with me,” said Bartoshevich, a 41-year-old emergency room nurse from Waterford in Racine County, and convention delegate pledged to Clinton.

Sadly, and shockingly, she had no idea how upset they would be. Chairman of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, Joe Wineke, when asked whether Bartoshevich’s expressed support for the Republican candidate could damage her convention status, “after some preliminary checking, Wineke said he assumed she would remain a delegate.”

Oh how quickly things change:

But Friday night, after a story about Bartoshevich appeared on the Journal Sentinel’s Web site, he had apparently reconsidered. At the state Democratic Party convention, party members, including Clinton supporters, unanimously passed a resolution asking the national party not to seat Bartoshevich at the Denver convention. Wineke spoke in favor of the resolution.

Another pledged Clinton delegate, Paula Dorsey of Milwaukee, offered the resolution.

Dorsey said trying to expel her fellow Democrat from the party’s convention “hurts my soul and it hurts my heart,” but it is the party’s presumptive nominee, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.), whom convention delegates must support.

In another disavowal of the rules, Ms. Bartoshevich is no longer allowed to attend the Convention because she expressed discontent and a level of distrust for the party’s “selectee.”

It has become clear that in Obama’s party, dissent is not welcome, and only unthinking loyalty to “The One” will be tolerated. Well, Senator Obama, Senator Clinton earned the loyalty of her supporters and that “loyalty is not transferable.”



  1. Open letter to
    Senator Barack Obama,
    possible Democratic Party of America Presidential nominee & some say next
    Commander-and-Chief of the United States & Moral Leader of the Western World.

    April 21, 2008

    Dear Senator Obama,

    My name is Leon Weinstein. I immigrated to the United States in 1986, and since I became a citizen, I was voting either republican or democrat, depending on issues and personalities. In fiscal and international areas I am conservative, on many social issues I am a liberal. I am pro-choice, pro-legalization of marihuana, pro-amnesty for illegal emigrants (with however a good solid wall constructed to regulate this issue in the future), pro-staying in Iraq until the situation stabilized, pro-getting our hundred billion dollars investment in Iraq back from sales of Iraqi oil, and with a strong stance against Muslim extremists and other aggressive countries and organizations. I would also want to disassemble the United Nations, this joke of a forum where human rights committee members are Iran & Syria.

    When one tries to look into your life achievements, first what he sees is a great carrier in public service, which attests to your political skills. You run a very tight and successful campaign, which is also a very positive sign. On the other hand you have not much of a managerial experience, which is kind of important for the top job in the country. There is not much international experience as well. You are saying that you have good judgment and in media it transfers like the only right judgment you made is that you opposed the war in Iraq. On the other hand your critics saying that you were not in the US senate at that time and didn’t have an access to the intelligence they had (actually you yourself said it several times prior to the Presidential race). Another point that you are making is that you are post-racial and post-partisan candidate and that you will be able to unite the country and the congress. Again the critics say that you didn’t prove while in the US senate that you are able to cross the isle, so to speak. It’s all very confusing. With other candidates it is easier. They are for many years in the all-American politics and we know much more about them. I decided to take try to see by myself where is the truth. Below is my account of the finding regarding your past words and deeds that can shed a light on the two main statements you make: (a) you have good judgment, and (b) you can unite, not divide the country.

    Let me stat with a little historical observation. My great grandparents were Jewish and lived in a small village, with no legal right to move to a larger city, being prohibited to enter Universities, denied elementary human rights and frequently being subjected to pogroms. They were killed, humiliated and raped. This was occurring so often that my ancestors decided that we will call our children’s race by their mother’s. Thousands upon thousands of those children of rape were proudly calling themselves Jews, and joined their brothers and sisters in their faith and destiny. It was very easy to blend into a non-Jewish environment and abandon your race and fate. Some did, most stayed. Let me honestly say to you that the very first thing that got me a bit worried in your book DREAMS OF MY FATHER were words: “I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race”.

    As you may know, in a Jewish tradition a boy becomes a man at age 13. This is the age we Jews believe that a person can’t hide any more behind his parents, his ignorance or age, has to start choosing his path in this world and has to answer for his own words and actions. This is another quote from your book: “I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites”. You were not ready to stand up for people who raised you, fed you, schooled you and loved you. Those people where “whites”. I am white too. The question the crossed my mind was – will you be ready to stand by me if you are our next President? But that was many years ago, you changed now, now you are grown up man.

    Every year about one million people legally immigrate to the US. Another million comes every year as illegal immigrants. They work, build their nests and stay here. There are millions of others who would give anything to be able to come and stay in America. When I was receiving my citizenship, the ceremony was conducted in a huge hall with some five thousand emigrants receiving their citizenship at the same time. I remember those five thousand people singing the American hymn and crying. They came from different countries and they all remembered how they lived over there. They had tears of joy in their eyes. Millions of people who came here as emigrants (believe me emigration is a very painful and difficult process) are grateful and love the same country your wife, your pastor and your friends appeared to hate. At least in the sound bites we sew on TV screen they shouted and said many bad words about the US of A. My question to you – did you do anything to stop this wave of hate against your mother’s race and your country? Did you fight and lead by example? Or you pretended not to hear, not to see, not to say?

    In my old country we had a saying “tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are”. I understand you do not want to be judged by association with your friends. Many people pass in our lives and we can’t be held accountable for all their words and deeds. Let’s then see what’s going on in your own home. This is what your wife said: “…for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country!” and “America … is a mean country”. Did you tell your wife that thousands upon thousands of people who dream of coming to this mean country? Why they want to stay here, raise their children and grandchildren? Because America is a mean country? Because there is nothing to be proud of here? Did you communicate those thoughts to your daughters? Or you take them Sunday after Sunday, month after month, year after year to sermons by Jeremiah Wright, filled with venom and hate?

    As a mater of fact I personally do not believe that your never heard your pastor and mentor saying that AIDS were created by Americans to wipe out all Africans, or that Christ is black, or that America is a KKK country. This was on CDs and DVDs that were distributed by your church. I have read that you donated large sums of money to this church. Someone used your money to produce those hateful materials. Did you object to that? Did you exercise the leadership and moral authority we seek in our future President?

    What else do I know about you? During student years you felt close to radicals and Marxists. It is perfectly OK at certain age to think that things can be easily and radically changed. Winston Churchill once said (or someone else equally smart) that if at the age twenty you are not a socialist, then you do not have a heart. But if at age forty you’re still a socialist, you do not have a brain. Are you still under a spell of Che Gevaras, Karl Marxes and Leo Trotskis? You went to ask for political support of the leader of Weather Underground. We all know what he and his wife are saying about America. You got their support. And became friends with them. So you probably did or said something that they liked. What did you do, say or promise that they liked so much?

    Then you were elected to the Illinois Senate. You were present but didn’t want to express your opinion on 129 subjects during your time in the state senate. What were the subjects? May be they were unimportant? One of them was an attempt to restrict the location of pornographic video stores & strip clubs within 1,000 feet of schools, churches and kindergartens. You refused to vote on this one. You were the only senator to be present but not expressing opinion on a bill that required teaching “respect for others” at schools. You voted NO on a bill that would require prisoners to pay court costs for frivolous lawsuits against the state. You were the ONLY vote in the Illinois Senate against prohibiting softening prison terms for sex offenders if they behaved well while in the prison. You voted NO on a bill requiring school boards to install software on public computers accessible to minors to block sexually explicit material. Why would you want the school age kids be able to watch porno on school computers? However you voted YES to allow purchase of hypodermic needles from pharmacies without a prescription.

    Let’s also take a look on how you voted on fiscal issues. When tough was going tougher and tougher in your state, you supported … raising taxes. Not trimming expenses, but raising taxes. The state needed money and it was so simple to take them from the hard working people. You supported raising of more than 300 taxes and fees on businesses in 2004 to help solve a budget deficit. I will let your constituency guess what you would do as a President every time we have fiscal problems in the US.

    But may be you are very trustworthy person? May be we shall rock solid believe in every word you say? Let’s examine that as well. In a speech in a church in Selma (Alabama) you said that when Democratic President John F.Kennedy offered all suffering people in the world to start believing in their own powers and come to study in the US, your grandfather in Africa heard this call and sent your father to study in the US. When your father came (with the help of the air-bridge that was organized by brothers Kennedy), he met his future bride to be, your white mother, on the historical civil rights march from the very same Selma to Montgomery.

    When examining this story one comes to several interesting conclusions: (a) March from Selma to Montgomery started on Match 7, 1965. You were born in August 1961, four years earlier, (b) In order to be your father, the Obama senior was suppose to come to America the latest in November of 1960, and at that time America’s president was republican Dwight Eisenhower (not democrat JFK).

    You said in many speeches and interviews that you would clean Washington and the politics from special interests. When asked about your relations to a shady businessman Tony Resco (an alleged Chicago mobster now being sued in Chicago), you said that you hardy knew the guy. Then you said that you knew him, but never took… then you said that he gave, but not a lot… and you immediately returned… even more then took… Sounds like Bill Clinton, right?

    The real truth we may learn (or not) during and after the Resco trial. But this is what we know – in June 2005 you purchased a 2 million house in Chicago. On the same day, Tony Resco’s wife purchased an adjacent lot and immediately sold part of it to your wife. The remaining part of the lot remained empty and your family conveniently uses it “temporarily” as your backyard. The picture seen on the Google Earth shows that from the air it is now one property with no boundaries separating the two lots. On top of this “small token” of several hundred thousand dollars, Tony was one of your main financial supporters and gave you over $150,000 in donations. Hardly a person whom you hardly knew. But the biggest question is – what were you paid for? What services you performed to this alleged Mafiosi that were worth purchasing a property and donating so much money to you? May be when saying that you will clean Washington from special interests, you meant “except President Obama’s special interests”?

    Dear Senator, you are probably a very good-hearted man. Although, not very honest. Che Guevara was a good man as well. Leon Trotsky was a very very good man. Mao Tze-Tung was probably a good man. I am sure many people think that Fidel Castro and Hugo Chávez are good men. Those are very good men… but not for us. We need a good man with the clearly American values, with an ability to defend our nation against all attacks (as Bush did as a mater of fact), with an ability to reach across the aisle and unite the nation. We need one that doesn’t lie to us. Your autobiographical “Dreams From My Father” is not a story of reaching across the isle but of developing an African identity. Where is our dream of the melting pot? Instead of White Supremacy that I sincerely hope is already in the past, we are now facing Black Supremacy? Black Values? What the hell is that? Why simply not American values?

    Do you know who said this: “There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost“. Your wife said that. What did you do or say in public to counter this wonderful pledge of hers?

    There is one more issue I would want to raise in my letter to you:

    In 2003 you said according to The Boston Globe the following words: “The United States had an absolute obligation to remain in Iraq long enough to make it a success”. You stated that: “… failure of the Iraqi state would be a disaster and would be a betrayal of the promise that we made to the Iraqi people, and it would be hugely destabilizing from a national security perspective”. In 2004 in your interview to The New York Times you said: “I’m always careful to say that I was not in the Senate, so perhaps the reason I thought [the war] was such a bad idea was that I didn’t have the benefit of U.S. intelligence,” In the same 2004 in an interview to the Chicago Tribune you said: “… here’s not that much difference between my position [on the war] and George Bush’s position at this stage.” And again in the same 2004 on the Charlie Rose Show, when Charlie asked you if you would have voted against the Iraq War resolution had you been in Congress, your answer was already a simple, “Yes.” On November 2005 you made a speech and called for a gradual withdrawal of forces. You said: “Notice that I say ‘reduce’, and not ‘fully withdraw’”. Today, you vow to “immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq.”

    I think you turned your back on something you proclaimed as an “absolute obligation”. I clearly remember that you made similar promises regarding the safety and security of Israel. How long will those promises last? Until January 2009? No wonder Hamas wants you to become America’s next president. And what other promises you are not intending to keep? In strict adherence to the policy of double-talk, your top foreign policy adviser Samantha Power (fired from the campaign) admitted in an interview that a President Obama may very well not keep the commitments regarding withdrawing from Iraq made by Senator Obama while campaigning. Something similar as far as I can remember was with the Canadian government and the North American Free Trade Agreement. I think in the Webster dictionary such behavior called hypocrisy. Correct me if I am wrong.

    Senator, you lost me as a potential supporter. You represent so many things that I despise, that I am very much concern now that you might be nominated and (God forbid) elected to become the United States President. I can assure you that I will work hard to stop you from becoming our next Commander-in-Chief. From this moment on and until November I am fighting against you as hard as I can. I will write letters, I will organize meetings, I will talk to as many people as I can, I will send money as much as I can to those who as myself will be feverishly working to stop you from changing this wonderful country of ours into the Union of Socialistic States of America.

  2. Why doesn’t she join the republican party?

  3. Libertarian Bill,

    You obviously have not grasped the motivation behind our movement. I can assure you we are not “voting emotionally,” but thanks for stereotyping us. Further, we would not be angered over a fair loss. However, the system was gamed and rigged and we will not allow the Democrats to turn into the Republicans of 2000.

    Thank you for your comment.

  4. You guys crack me up; this election should be a slam dunk for you. Watching you guys hose it up is like watching Wiley Coyote blow himself up yet again in a Roadrunner cartoon.

    I know your feelings are hurt, but losing is part of competing; if you can’t take getting roughed up, stay out of the fight. And voting emotionally is what got us 8 years of Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld et al. But I’m sure it’ll work out for you THIS time…

  5. You know more and more it would appear that Obama and Sudan Hussien are not that different …. Corruption, corruption, corrution

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